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Ask The Guitar Guru: Tuning a Floyd Rose Tremolo

By Gene Imbody, 4/5/2002

Chris wrote in with the following question about tuning a guitar that has a Floyd Rose tremolo:

I have had a major problem with my ibanez Gio. I stapped my A string so Ithought well Imight as well replace the whole lot and have a nice fresh set of strings on. I worked out how to thread them on the M. heads 3 under one over slip it underneath so that the strings grip it good article by the way, and then when Ituned it up it was so tight it lifted up my bridge which made my action higher and I had to loosen the strings so that it went back in place making it impossible to tune wat do I do? aaaaaaah another beginner guitarist making a fool of himself, please save me!

A disassembled floyd rose tremolo. Squash - dead. Disassemble - dead. DISASSEMBLE - DEAD! NO DISASSEMBLE NUMBER FIVE!!
A disassembled floyd rose tremolo. Squash - dead. Disassemble - dead. DISASSEMBLE - DEAD! NO DISASSEMBLE NUMBER FIVE!!

Your custom built Guitar Guru answer:

Chris, It sounds like you have a Floyd Rose or similar bridge on that guitar. They can be tricky to deal with. It is very important to tune with equal tension on those bridges, or you get what you described here. Many players change only one string at a time with bridges like these...you may find this to be your easiest approach in the future.

The proper way to tune any guitar with a tremelo is with what I call "Cross Tuning." This is a method of tuning back and forth across the strings. If you start at the bass E string and tune in succession to the treble E string you'll find that the bridge will tilt toward the peghead and all of the strings will be flat. Here's what you do (it is best to use a good electronic tuner for this): Your strings are numbered 1 to 6 (#1 being treble E, #6 being bass E.)

Start with some tension on all strings, but make sure none are above pitch (all strings should be flat.) Tune #6 up to pitch. Tune #1 to pitch Tune #2 to pitch Tune #5 to pitch Now repeat this from the beginning(6, 1, 2, 5.) After you have re-tuned 5, tune #3. Now tune #4. Repeat from the beginning until you are in tune.

Remember to ALWAYS tune up to pitch and never down. If you are sharp, tune below the desired note, then tune back up. It may seem confusing at first, but you will get used to it. I've gotten so used to it that I tune fixed bridges this way too. What this method does is apply even tension to the strings from side to side so that the tremelo rises level. If you go from one end to the other, the trem continues to raise and as it does all of the strings you've tuned become flat. This is more controllable with cross tuning.

If you get to the end and are in tune, but the bridge does not sit parallel to the body, then you need a set-up and you should probably visit a good repairman. Good Luck! Gene Imbody

Drop D tuner nightmare
About 2 years ago i had purchased a Ernie
Ball Musicman with a Floyd Rose tremelo.
Attached to the floyd Rose was a EVH drop D
tuner. I really enjoy it but it is a bitch
to tune and when i use it it knocks
everything out of pitch. Is there an easy
way to avoid tese problems? I would
appreciate any help.

#1 by Alec Peterson on Jun 08, 2002 12:00:00 AM

What Strings Should I use?
what strings used in one ibanez rg series

#2 by Marconi Alvarez A. on Jul 29, 2002 12:00:00 AM

new %&$'g strings
I got new strings formy Ibanez 7 string. The only problem is keeping them on.I changed the high-E, but by the time I got to the B. I noticed the E sitting just outside the groove rather than in the saddle. I removed it and replaced it, but as I tightened the string it kept slipping out of the saddle. No matter how hard I tightened the hex bolt at the bridge, as soon as i got the tension high enough to start tuning, SLIP there it went. I tried putting the other end of the string in to no avail(at this point I'd trimmed the string too short to span to the tuning machine. Moving on, I continued with the B onward to the bass end, still ranting that I'd have to buy another E. Anyway, as soon as I start tuningthe low E string, the B,G, and D string all slip out of their saddles simultaneously and the bridge slaps against the guitar. What should I do? Cross tuning sounds good (as soon as I get new strings) but should I put a shim under the taipiece when I start again? Also, these are lighter strings than i usually use(9's)does that make a difference? help

#3 by matt keen on Jul 31, 2002 12:00:00 AM

Tuning a Floyd Rose (cont...)
Cross tuning is important, but the problem with not being able to get in tune and the bridge raising has more to do with the spring tensions. Different gauges or manufacturer makes create this situation. If you're close to being in tune, but the bridge is not parallel, evaluate the situation. If every time you tune the top or bottom and it throws the other side out of tune, then the only spring that requires tightening is the one on that other side. The objective is to have a parallel bridge. If you didn't tighten a spring and the other side went out of tune, so you continued to tune back a forth until the bidge raised ... hense the problem and you'll never get in tune without adjusting a spring. It takes a little patience and tweeking, but it's really not that difficult once you've learned how. I'd suggest saving your money on a tech and trying it yourself.

#4 by Stone on Aug 18, 2002 12:00:00 AM

thanks for the answer!
that was exactly what i needed to know too. i am a realatively new player and the rose trems are still forign to me. I was about to pull all my hair out dealing with this height issue. I will deffinitely bookmark this site for future refrence. Keep up the good work!

Cody
Fort Worth, Tx.

#5 by Cody Powers on Aug 19, 2002 12:00:00 AM

www.GuitarRepairman.com
About 2 years ago i had purchased a Ernie Ball Musicman with a Floyd Rose tremelo. Attached to the floyd Rose was a EVH drop D tuner. I really enjoy it but it is a bitch to tune and when i use it it knocks everything out of pitch. Is there an easy way to avoid tese problems? I would appreciate any help.
-- Alec Peterson




Alec,
Practice the techniques outlined in my Floyd Tuning article, and that should help a lot. It is also important to have a good set-up with these trems if you really want them to stay in tune. Unfortunately though, the guitar is a tension related instrument, and since a trem like this greatly alters the tension of the strings when you use it, it will inherently be difficult to keep in tune. Same goes with the D tuner...you flip it to D, the tension changes, the whole bridge moves slightly, so the tuning changes. Not much you can do about that. If the guitar is set-up and tuned properly to begin with, you should be able to reduce these fluctuations to such a minimu that the guitar stays in tune enough to be usable.

#6 by Gene Imbody on Aug 26, 2002 12:00:00 AM

www.GuitarRepairman.com
Cross tuning is important, but the problem with not being able to get in tune and the bridge raising has more to do with the spring tensions. Different gauges or manufacturer makes create this situation. If you're close to being in tune, but the bridge is not parallel, evaluate the situation. If every time you tune the top or bottom and it throws the other side out of tune, then the only spring that requires tightening is the one on that other side. The objective is to have a parallel bridge. If you didn't tighten a spring and the other side went out of tune, so you continued to tune back a forth until the bidge raised ... hense the problem and you'll never get in tune without adjusting a spring. It takes a little patience and tweeking, but it's really not that difficult once you've learned how. I'd suggest saving your money on a tech and trying it yourself.
-- Stone



Stone,

Sorry, but you are a little off here. The claw should be level on both sides and even tension on the springs...I do not recommend tilting the claw to accomodate improper tuning. If you do, you are providing un-even tension on the trem side-to-side and hindering the free floating movement of the trem. You could actually create more tuning problems with this method. It's all about even consistent tension. If the trem isn't level after proper tuning, you should adjust the claw, but evenly on each screw and not more on one than the other. You are using the claw and springs in a way they werent't exactly intended to be use. But hey, if it works for you who am I to say...I jsut wouldn't recommend it.
Thanks.

#7 by Gene Imbody on Aug 26, 2002 12:00:00 AM

www.GuitarRepairman.com
Well...not to argue with you, and ultimately if this works for you then who am I to say...but you are more than slightly off here. The trem claw is meant to adjust the length of the springs thereby adjusting the tension of your bridge against the pull of the strings. This will change how level your trem is and should be adjusted should your trem become un-level. However, the article was intended to help you tune a guitar with a Floyd more accurately. I would never recommend adjusting only half of your trem claw to help keep certain strings in tune because tuning others caused them to go out of tune...what you are suggesting is not only ineffective, but will probably also serve more to help you guitar stay out of tune. You should give cross tuning a shot once your guitar is set-up correctly to begin with and I think you'll see what I mean. No, setting up a trem is not rocket sciencen and with a little practice just about anyone should be able to do it successfully, but you will have more success in the long run if you learn to do it properly to begin with.

#8 by Gene Imbody on Aug 26, 2002 12:00:00 AM

This method does not work?!?
I tried to tune my Ibanez JEM guitar with the cross-tuning method.. but whenever i tune my bass-E, the trem is already higher than parallel... so there's no way i could go on, can anyone give me some advice?

#9 by Benjamin on Nov 24, 2002 11:00:00 PM

Floyd Rose bridge
Is there a way of locking a Floyd Rose bridge so it will only dive? I like to rest my hand on the bridge, and find that I sometimes push it down, causing the pitch to rise. I mainly play a Paul, so it has been a b***h getting used to the different bridge.

Tks
Bill

#10 by Bill on Feb 09, 2003 11:00:00 PM

flat strings/tight springs?
i have 3 guitars with floyd rose trems, and i keep them all tuned down one half step. 2 of them(the cheaper ones)hafe much more slack on the strings-sometimes when i play too hard i push the e strings off the neck. is there any way to make the strings tighter while keeping the guitar tuned down? i allready use heavy strings-.011-.48s

#11 by Sam Awry on Feb 27, 2003 11:00:00 PM

message for chris
Look mate we,ve all found when we get a new guitar that getting to know your instument is probably the hard bit (unless your a smart arse),I myself have just recently purchased a guitar with a floating floyd rose bridge,I have never had one before and i have been playing for 7 years.I had hours of fun trying to figure out( how the hell does this work).I
do however have a problem with doing the intonation,I HAVE NOT GOT A CLUE!!!.

#12 by JAY on Apr 21, 2003 12:00:00 AM

Can you take off the tremelo
i hate it so much! the strings keep slipping so i have to constantly re-tune the whole thing. is there any way of taking it off. in my band i go from drop d tuning to standard E so it'd be really handy if i could take it off!! Thanx
Nick

#13 by Nick Kiddle on Apr 29, 2003 12:00:00 AM

bar break off inside the bridge .how do i get it out&find replacement
the bar snappedabout1/3 " down in the bridge how do i fix this?contact rpatterson10@sc.rr.com

#14 by rod ratterson on Jun 01, 2003 12:00:00 AM

Bollocks!
How comes when I tried all that cross tuning crap it didn't work?!
Stupid God damn Floyd Rose tremolo bridges!

#15 by annon on Nov 04, 2003 11:00:00 PM

HELP FOR TUNING
hello there,jimmy from greece!i have a problem and i want your help.my guitar is a left-handed ibanez 470 series(korea)with a floyd rose immitation.the problem is that i really dont know a specific technique for tuning my tremolo so i have to go everytime elsewhere to tune it but i want to make it myself in order to see my guitar's secrets and at last to put my own hands on the floyd and not to let strangers to do their own stuff!i put my strings as low as possible and i quite use the tremolo bar.if u can,give me your lights !



#16 by jimm xatzakis on Nov 06, 2003 11:00:00 PM

I hate the bend a note other strings go flat thing
I hate the bend a note other strings go flat thing so I installed a stabalizer.
But now I can never get it right, when I bend it stays good and I can still use tremelo but it is always out of tune. If I push flat on the rose and let come up as I used to with keeping it in tune it is but then when I bend a string it is out, if I tune it after a bend it stays in tune until I use the flord rose... I think I want to block it up and make it solid for a while and get back to roots what is the best way... http://ozoneband.com

#17 by Jeremy Maurer AKA JD Ozone on Nov 22, 2003 11:00:00 PM

No more Floyd Rose nightmare!
The problem that face any Floyd Rose's owner is when the time comes to replace strings! Who haven't heard the stupid advise to fix the dam thing permanently with a piece of wood with glue? Here's is the clue you've been waiting for:

As long your guitar is getting older, the Floyd Rose is getting older too. With the aging process the two coils are loosing their strenght and that is why you are experiencing the problem that everyone know.

Instead of condemning this wonderful technology with a piece of wood (ridiculous), replace both coils with new ones or even better, insert a pad of silicone gel to the opposite side of the coils. The silicone gel pad will help and support the coils to do their job, retention is the key. If you don't know where to find silicone gel pad to fix your Floyd Rose, get a mouse pad with silicone wrist rest and remove the gel piece from the pad, fold it (it needs at least 1 1/2 inch thick) and insert it into the cavity (opposite to the coils) and HAVE FUN!

Ray
Montreal, Quebec

#18 by Ray on Dec 27, 2003 11:00:00 PM

I want to tune the 8ths of my floyd rose!
I have a jackson guitar with a original floyd rose, and my problem is that i want to tune the notes above the 12# fret!They are so detuned that when i want to do solos, most of the times i have to start doing bends to tune up the notes.For me it´s quite difficult to deal with those pieces that grips all the strings, because when i start unscrewing them, i have to tune the guitar all over again and i just cant get it right!Can you help me?

#19 by Osvaldo Salvador de Oliveira on Mar 23, 2004 11:00:00 PM

thank you
thanks for the article on tuning a floyd rose system i just bought an ibanez rg 450 with one one it and was going crazy tuning it THANK YOU

#20 by release on Jul 01, 2004 12:00:00 AM

I don't think that's what he was talking about.
No, he was using too high a gauge of strings. The string tensions was higher than the resistance in the spring in the tremolo, thus the bridge was lifted past the normal point of resistance.

#21 by Dj on Aug 04, 2004 12:00:00 AM

Trem springs
I have the same problem, and it aint string gauge or tuning in a 3 or 4 step tune up procedure. Metal weakenns from trem use and i have talked to guitar partsmen and they dont have clue about what theyre tlkin about. You need to get OEM springs, because "jobber" spring are cheap and weak. Tremsetters help, but try putting more springs on, and try to "y" them.

#22 by Steve Power on Nov 11, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Floyd Rose spring tension
First off, I own an Ernie Ball EVH with a Floyd Rose. This guitar has kept almost perfect tune for over 4 months now, and I play it at least 4 hours a day working on tremolo leads. The strings are so dead that they don't even ring anymore.....but it stays in excellent tune anyway.I have not tuned it ONCE since the original tunung. I am a professional musician, and I am quite shocked at how well this guitar stays tuned. I did have a professional set up done on it by "TK" Keckler. I always change and tune ONE string at at time.....ALWAYS.

Here's my question: The tension is really hard to push the trem bar down......can I use just one spring instead of two? Or is there some other way to reduce the tension? This Floyd is set up "flat" on the body like Eddie Van Halens.....it is NOT floated.

RICCO MORIALLI/ SECOND SEASON

#23 by RICCO MORIALLI on Dec 06, 2004 11:00:00 PM

You MUST get a professional set up
If you want your Floyd to work properly, you must first have your guitar working proprely. A professional set up is a MUST if you want your Floyd to play and react and stay tuned like Eddie Van Halen. I am not talking about a standard set up, I am talking about having your frets hand honed to 1/10,000 inch of dead level, and having your truss rod correctly set up, as well as the Floyd. These Floyds are precision instruments, and your guitar had better be set up precisioned as well. If you have a non-original Floyd Rose, you will have tuning problems as soon as the blades start to wear no matter WHAT you do to your guitar.......I highly suggest buying a high quality Floyd, and not those cheap licensed copies to start with. My EVH MusicMan is an older one (1994), and it has all Hardened German Steel construction.....unlike the cheap copies, but it STILL requires maintenance to keep it set up correctly.....especially if you like very low action like I do. The My guitar keeps excellent tune and I never have had a problrem with it. If you are not willing to spend the money to get your guitar set up properly, then you shouldn't have a Floyd Rose or any other tremolo. Most people think that when they buy a new guitar that it is readt to play.....this is VERY far from the truth. ALL new guitars need a professional set up, including the most expensive Gibson Les Pauls. There are some boutique guitars that come already peofessionally set up, but believe me, you paid for it. Korean guitars are the absolute worst about having non-glued frets that are very uneven and in great need of hand honing.Plus, they come with the cheapest Floyd copies on the market. Any weather change at all will losen the frets, making tuning a nightmare. Ever asked yourself why you can buy a Floyd copy on Ebay for $79, but an original Floyd cost over $250???? There is a very good reason for that. Copies have soft metal blades that wear out in a year if you play it much, and the saddles wear out as well. One of you said that his guitar would be in tune below the 12th fret, and out of tune above it......this is because of two things: you need a trussrod adjustment.......and your frets are uneven. Uneven frets, worn frets, and improper truss rod adjustments are the main reasons your guitar will not be in tune from nut to saddle. not to mention incorrect saddle hight adjustments on tunomatic bridges. I have been playing professionally for over 25 years and owned over 20 different guitars. Musical instruments are not cheap to keep up, but you must do it if you want your guitar to sound good and play well. Think of it like an airplane.......the innitial cost is not the factor....the upkeep is......same with any guitar, especially with a Floyd Rose. So, PLEASE, love and respect your guitars enough to take proper care of them and get a professional set up once or twice a year. It cost about $125, but you have no idea how well your guitar plays and sounds untill you get it done right. I own 5 guitars, and believe me, that's a lot of money for those set ups, but my guitars all play like butter......keep perfect tune (perfect as possible)......and all have tremolo systems.

RICCO MORIALLI/SECOND SEASON

#24 by RICCO MORIALLI on Dec 06, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Still Breaks E string And constantly untuneing
My Ibanez Rgt42 trem 2 is Floating All over the place I want to Weld the Sucker down I've tuned my guitar over a million times and gone through 5 sets since Christmas What Are more problems That could be going wrong Because I've taken it Apart Twice maybe i'm just a Bad Tuner Or have NO exprience With them

#25 by parker on Apr 04, 2005 12:00:00 AM

floyd rose
i finnaly fixed my floyd rose but now when i Dive bomb or wah it still detunes what could the Problem be

#26 by Parker on Apr 08, 2005 12:00:00 AM

Not Many Problems 'Ere
I'm another ct from the School of Dimebag, and I'm a tiny bit whammy happy, now its either I'm actually tone deaf or maybe I just got lucky, but I ain't really got no probs with my (licensed) 'Rose... I play a Jackson Performa PS4T (Dinky DX10DFS is on its way!!!) and aside from the odd occasion where I need to retune to play some stuff off Far Beyond instead of Cowboys, I really don't see half these problems you guys are on about. This is my first guitar with a trem, so maybe I'm just used to retuning it, or perhaps I don't really care if its not 'pitch perfect' all the time, but I'm def' not having the kinda problems that you guys sound like you are, and hell, my guitar's cheap as chips...

...but like I said, maybe I just got lucky...

#27 by [FaCE] on Apr 26, 2005 12:00:00 AM

my bridge lifts up
when i try and tune my guitar i tune 1 string and when i tune the next string the one before goes out of tune.
also once all of the strings have some tension in them the bridge lifs up towards the head
any help would be nice!!

#28 by martin collis on Jul 04, 2005 12:00:00 AM

Help
I have an ibanez in tring to down tune how do i decreass the the spring tension so the base plate will stay level

#29 by ryan on Sep 25, 2005 12:00:00 AM

help mjy floyd rose part is messed!!!!
k dude i got a guittar with a floyd rose original bridge and i took all the strings off and it went down. now wen i try to put the allan key in the slot i cant plus i have no clue how to tune it my guittar is a Fender TALON. i think its and old guittar plz help!!!!!!!!!

#30 by Zebb on Oct 12, 2005 12:00:00 AM

spring tension
the spring tension is loosened (or tightened) by the 2 screws under the back plate of the guitar

it is a big process to setup a floyd rose for the first time, u should see a professional, but once set up

if you change strings 1 at a time so that you keep the tension on your tremelo, then it will not need a setup

when you tune the strings start from high e, it will keep going out of tune as mentioned here, that is normal, just keep going back to the start and repeat until it stays in tune, once it is in and you lock it down you are set (remember to have your fine tuners most of the way out so that you can fine tune to allow from string streching

#31 by marduk on Dec 20, 2005 11:00:00 PM

BC Rich Floyd look-alike
First off, I was very lucky to pick up a BC Rich Warlock with a nice padded interior hardcase at a garage sale for only $50. However, it has one of the cheap Asian imitations of the Floyd Rose Pro in it. Also, it was missing the small piece of metal that the strings go through that is adjusted by the screw knobs on the bridge.

It worked well for many months, I just had to re-tune after each time I played it, until the mounting screws underneath the bridge that attach the plate that the springs hook onto to the body popped out, releasing the tension on the bridge, which flew up, and now it's REALLY flat. And the screws heads are shredded, so I cannot screw them back in. Any suggesions?

#32 by Mike on Jan 04, 2006 11:00:00 PM

Just another begginner making a fool of himself...
hey guitar guru,
Im thinking about buying a warlock deluxe se, and it doesnt have a floyd rose or any type or tremolo. can i put a tremolo in, or is it just not that simple? thanx.

#33 by Jonathan Varga-Szabo on Feb 06, 2006 11:00:00 PM

Floyd Rose
I have a Ibanez RG 570 Custom with a licensed Floyd Rose which seems to be broken. I need to replace it, so thought of going in for Original Floyd Rose. Should I go for a Speed Loader or a PRO??Or any better ones you can suggest. I play more of neo classical stuffs, I need something which is more relaible in future.

#34 by Mervin on Feb 28, 2006 11:00:00 PM

Strings
Just bought a new Ibanez with Floyd Rose bridge. It's not caused a great problem in tuning but I've got one string that buzzes (5th). At the moment I have raised the string with a bit of foil at the bridge !! which has cured it temporarily . I can't find which fret, if any, is causing the problem. I am relatively new to electric guitars and do not play professionally.

#35 by Maggie on Apr 14, 2006 12:00:00 AM

George Lynch Signiture w/ Floyd Rose
I just purchased a George Lynch Kamikaze Signiture guitar w/ a Floyd Rose. When it arrived, it worked great, but, the strings on it were 10's. I took those off and put on 9's. It works great and stays in tune but now there is alot of fret buzz. I am going to have a guitar tech set it up right, but, I'm just wondering how to raise the action to stop the buzzing. This is my first Floyd Rose equipped guitar after playing for 30 years. Thanks in advance for your help.

#36 by Dave Gerancher on Apr 16, 2006 12:00:00 AM

Tuning To Drop-D
Well I bought a new guitar a couple of days ago, an Ibanez RG370 to be exact. Took it out of the box and it was set up very poorly, so I took to the professionals to set it up for me. Plus the fact I snapped the high E string. So I now have it back, all set up in the standard tuning but I know many songs in drop D which I could switch to easily on my old guitar. I would like to do this on my new one but have a feeling I could just repeat what happened when I first got my new Ibanez. I don't know if it's something simple like just releasing the pressure pad and tihtenng the string normally.
Do you have any easy suggestions I could use to easily switch into drop D on my guitar? Thanks in advance Scott G

#37 by Scott Gummerson on Jun 27, 2006 12:00:00 AM

tuning to drop- D with floyd rose
I have foun it easyest to tune to drop - D with mine by loosening the locking nut for the 6th string,then loosening the string to become out of tune,then going down to the fine tuners and tightening the 6th string's fine tuner all the way down.then geting out the tuner and tuning it with the machine heads at the headstock,then tightening the locking nut back again.so that when you want to go in to drop - D you can just loosen the fine tuner without having to mess with the nut again.

#38 by taylor hawkins on Jul 27, 2006 12:00:00 AM

Well maggie, I can help.
I do believe I know what's causing your fret buzz on your Floyd equipped guitar.
I had a buzz, and it took me an entire day of fiddling to get it fixed. But I fixed it.
Email me if you like, and I might be able to help.

#39 by Aaron on Jul 30, 2006 12:00:00 AM

HELP!
I need to know if it's ok to have the bridge all the way up, cause the guitar won't tune right, but the bridge is going up really high.

#40 by David on Sep 19, 2002 12:00:00 AM

OK Chris!!!
block the bridge so that the tremola is parallel with the body...i used the backplate...fit perfect
if you don't have 4 springs, i suggest getting that setup, as 5 springs is way too tight, and 3 isn't as stable as 4, and 4 seems to be pretty stable
You may have to mess around with the 2 anchor screws for a while to get the tension just right,and the springs unit should be parallel with the bridge, no matter how tight the 2 anchor screws are, so that the bridge stays parallel, and your strings stay in tune, but once it does, the block should easily come out, and you'll probably have to tune another 2 times, 3 max. If your bridge keeps rising as you tune, tighten the 2 anchor screws...
if the strings tune high loosen the 2 anchor screws.
if you don't want to use the wammy at all, i suggest blocking the tremola permanently, with a fashionable piece of 1/8th inch plastic or wood(so trem is parallel), and use as many springs as you can install, as tight as you can install them(NOT TOO EXTREME), so that the bridge virtually becomes fixed. DON'T LOOSEN THE 2 SCREWS TOO MUCH! They SHOULD be about 3-5 inches.
Best of luck Chris

#41 by Rob on Oct 03, 2003 12:00:00 AM

question about locking floyd rose trem
hello and thank you for your excellently presented website.

i'm new to the floyd rose, and shall be acquiring and instrument with one within a few days. naturally i need to know how to use it properly and there is a narking question i have before venturing to use it.

the question is, way back in the 60's (i'm an old guy) when i had my first fender strat, they used to have slots for the strings on the machines instead of holes. there was, however, a hole drilled dead center on the machine shaft end, so you had to cut the extra length off the string first, dip it into the hole and then around the slot, and finally wind it around the axle of the machine. i'm sure you know about these.

after ruining 2 or 3 sets of strings (!!) i finally realized that
clipping the end off causing the winding of the string to unwind, thus causing the wound strings to completely lose their sound and zing, and become completely dead as per an old, worn-out used string. i solved that by putting a right-angle bend in the string first with
my pliers before clipping it (or not clipping it at all).

sorry to be so long-winded.

the question therefore is: with the locking floyd rose trem, it's
recommended to clip the ball off first before fitting. how come this doesn't allow the winding to loosen and ruin the string as per my early experiences? (i don't see anywhere where it's warned to fit the string into the trem's "vise" first then clip it afterwards, if indeed it is at all possible to do so; it's always advised to clip the ball off first).

can you kindly help?

thanks and best regards

#42 by Swarup Das on Feb 28, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Detuning Whammy
I have the same problem as "#26 by Parker on Apr 08, 2005 12:00:00 AM" I changed the strings on my Jackson Floyde Rose tremolo, for the first time awhile ago and as I didn't know what gauge the strings were when I bought it I obviously used a different gauge and the bridge lifted up off my guitar, I fixed this by adjusting the springs at the back but now if I even touch the whammy bar it completely detunes! Help please!

#43 by Francis on Mar 02, 2008 8:01:24 AM

help
I have a "Johnson EST 1993 catalyst" guitar with Floyd rose tremolo, bought it 3 weeks ago ... took alot of work to have the bridge parallel to the guitar .... I did the cross tuning (got it from you GURU) anyway I broke 4 E sharp strings so far in 3 WEEKS!!(although they're in perfect pitch) & I have no idea why? yes i do alot of action with the tremolo but that's why I bought it .... Guitar Guru u have to help me I love my guitar but I'm new to Floyd rose guitars & this issue is making me go crazy. Thanks.

#44 by Mardini on Mar 26, 2008 7:40:42 PM

stabalizer
I've been using tremlocks stabalizers with my loyd Rose for a while and it works well after I got it adjusted right. Now guy gave me a " Real" Floyd Rose Stablizer to try. No install or set up instuctions, it looks nothing like my Tremlocks. Have you ever seen one, can you give me some hints on install and adjustments. I'm putting it on a Strat I'm in the process of building... Mike S. Omaha, Nebraska
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#45 by Mike S, Omaha Nebraska on Apr 02, 2008 12:06:57 AM

string replacing trouble
Ive had a guitar with a floyd rose now for a little over a year and i was fed up with the tuning/replacing string stuff so i got a locking system to lock my tremolo in place it works great thats not really the issue but ever since ive had it when i replace the big E string once ive got the end in and tightened it all up the coiling around my string unwinds and it essentially "breaks" the string i was wondering if anyone has had this same problem and if either im doing something wrong or its just possibly another frustration that comes with having a tremolo system

#46 by Jason DeScenzo on Apr 20, 2008 11:42:26 PM

shims for saddles for a floyd rose
where do i get shims to make the bridge have the same radius as the neck

#47 by bryan on May 05, 2008 8:53:50 PM

Johnson EST 1993 guitar's truss rod
I just got a Johnson EST 1993 guitar. It's truss rod has a smooth round hole where most guitars have a hex hole for an allen wrench. How does one adjust these?
Thanks, Lee

#48 by Lee on May 22, 2008 3:53:14 AM

adjusting string saddles on a floyd rose tremelo
Hi
I would like to know how to adjust the string saddles on my floyd rose bridge system. Thanks Philip

#49 by Philip on Jun 06, 2008 8:08:46 PM

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