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Save The Union

By Matthew Toledo - 12/3/2004

The Union Bar and Grill may close its upstairs stage. If it happens, it could very well be the end of underground music in Athens. This is quite possibly the saddest news I've ever heard in 12 years of living in Athens. Details are still sketchy and everything mentioned in this article may not be entirely correct, but I felt that this information was so important to get out that I had to start writing something now.

It is important to spread the news, because as more people hear about this, the odds increase that someone will step in to save one of Athens landmark institutions. Think about all the thousands of people who have rocked out at the union over the last few decades. One of them must have the power or money to help the situation. So please, spread the news to anyone you know likes the Union.

I will update this story as details come in. What you should know is that I have not yet talked to Lou, the recently married owner of the Union. I have only talked to employees and close friends of the Union staff.

It is important to know that shows currently scheduled at the Union are still happening. The John Lennon Fest this December 11th will still happen. So get your Union fix while you can.

What is known for sure:

  • The Union does not own the building.
  • The Union had a ten year lease with a rate cap around $1000 a month. The lease is coming up, and the new rate is triple the current amount.
  • The current lease expires around February 9th or 10th of 2005.
  • The Union's has already made a word of mouth agreement to renew the lease for the downstairs portion of the bar.
  • Lou Renart, the owner of the Union, has not committed to leasing the upstairs yet.
  • No shows are cancelled.
  • The Couladis family trust owns the building. Alexander Couladis (a local CPA) and Pete Couladis (an executive chairman with the Athens County Republicans) run the trust
  • Lou Lenart, the owner of the Union, is an active Major in the Army Reserve and is currently on duty and away from Athens.
  • Union employees and friends of the bar had a meeting on December 9th to discuss possibly saving the venue and came up with several solutions.
  • Court Street Management, owners of Skippers and The Blue Gator, were asked if they want to take over the lease should Lou decide not to renew. They have not yet decided if they will expand Skippers into the Union's stage room. It is very improbable that it will be another music venue. If they take over the lease, it will more likely be a catering kitchen and/or banquet room.

What you can do:

  • Brainstorm on ways to save the Union and share your comments on the AMN. For example, there has been much talk about turning the Union into a co-op like Casa.
  • Raise funds so that the Union can have time to think and capital to work with.
  • Spread the news to people who have the money to help.
  • Write to the Athens News and let the non-computer savvy types (a.k.a old folks and local business owners) know how much the Union means to the local scene.

Why should you care:

  • The Union is the only venue in town not owned by Ohio University that incubates and fosters new ORIGINAL underground bands on a regular basis by providing them with paid gigs on weekends and not just open stages or weekday slots. While other venues do help some new bands get started, only The Union can claim to have helped sponsor hundreds of bands that write their own music instead of butchering the latest top 40 cover tune. The only exception to this is university-owned Front Room.
  • The Union is the oldest bar in town. It was around during the Civil War and was a speakeasy during prohibition.
  • The Union was the first establishment in Athens to serve alcohol and the first to desegregate.
  • Only the Union consistently features indie, rock, punk, underground and other non-mainstream forms music.
  • The Union repels yuppies. They actually spontaneously combust upon crossing the threshold. wink
  • Their size permits them to take financial chances that larger venues can not afford to take because larger venues have larger overhead costs.
  • The Union is famous the world over.
  • The loss of the Union would be an incalculable loss to the local live music scene.
  • Athens isn't Athens without the Union.
  • If this town loses the Union at the same time that Krogers is installing a new Starbucks, then it's time to move.

Please show your support for the Union by adding your comments, ideas for saving the union, and any confirmed facts.

300% ???
What a dick. Long live the Union.

#1 by Jeremy Foltz on Dec 05, 2004 11:00:00 PM

I really hope this isnt true.
i love playign shows at the union, i love going to shows at the union, i love drinkign at the union. I'm going to try to find out some more information, i'll post if i find anything out.

#2 by DJ Barticus on Dec 05, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Alumni, dust off your swords!
You know who you are! This is your chance to acquire that special piece of your glory days from somewhere other than eBay. Take your power, money and hubris and do something real with it! Destroy evil and claim for eternity the eye of the storm!

#3 by Stan Delorjihnmergin on Dec 05, 2004 11:00:00 PM

other historic facts about the union
i did a research paper on the Union, and it was the first place in Athens to sell alcohol, and the first restaurant to de-segregate (both of which was met by public protest).

#4 by anonymous on Dec 05, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Rumors are just rumors
Why post such rumors if you're not sure if they are true? You could be slandering a mans reputation without knowing the facts. This could reflect very poorly on the union and it's employee's. Personally I would wait to post stuff liket this until you have solid facts. Just my honest opinion

#5 by Rumor mill on Dec 06, 2004 11:00:00 PM

write letters
public opinion can have a lot of influence. if enough people were to write letters to a local newspaper like the a-news, the landlords might have second thoughts about raising the rent, at least maybe by so much, just to save face. they also might be highballing the union, by saying they want $3000 a month now instead of $1100, in an attempt to get the union to agree to $2000 a month instead. i've heard at this point though, its pretty much a done deal, but all of this is conjecture. we all need to regroup and start finding houses that would be willing to put on shows every now and again, and looking for a space around town to start a new venue.

#6 by curtis on Dec 06, 2004 11:00:00 PM

combustion
I spent a very large amount of time at the union during my years at OU and I never combusted.

I miss the union. I've even had dreams set in the union. I hope that viable plan presents itself. One that is not just propped up on the hopes and emotion of the music scene, but one that is sustainable as an part of the Union Bar and Grill business.

It would be a real shame if Athens lost the Union as a venue. Keep us informed as the real details of the situation comes to light.

#7 by Marc on Dec 07, 2004 11:00:00 PM

say it ain't so
this is the saddest news i've heard in a long time. first kerry lost, and now this. i'll do whatever i can to help.

#8 by sera on Dec 07, 2004 11:00:00 PM

the party's over.......
I'm not sure if there's any saving to
be done, but I don't think ot would hurt
to start sending those letters to the
editors.......perhapse at least some
public outcry could make a small difference
to those in charge of making the final
decisions. Bands, alumnists, patrons,
etc. Make yourself heard.
I'm not sure about the messenger, but
Athens News email is news@athensnews.com



#9 by scott on Dec 07, 2004 11:00:00 PM

UNION
In the spirit of the Union, why not have a tribute show, (like there have been for so many other causes) but contribute to the Union. you (scott) could ask all sorts of bands that have played there in the past (ie white stripes even perhaps) to come back for a Union style Star studded event to raise some cash to keep it alive. The Union is so important to somany people that I know it wont go down with out a fight...I will fly back for the show...I grew up in that place...so many a-town kids did. People love the union from all over this country...WE MUST SAVE IT!

#10 by ellen on Dec 07, 2004 11:00:00 PM

IDEAS
1. i think we should ask the Athens Historical Society for their support because of the historical significance of the bar.

2. i think we should start a petition, which we could then use to persuade: the landlord, city council, the Athens Historical Society, maybe even O.U. (unfortunately i cannot be the one to start it up since i live in Dayton at the moment)

3. i think we should all write the local papers, and ultimately make our concerns loud and clear to the entire town.

#11 by Ruckus Roboticus on Dec 09, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Afghan Whigs, Goo Goo Dolls, Boss Hog, etc.
All played the Union in the late 80's. Contact Greg Dulli, Christine and Resnick and ask them for money.

Mr. Cinch

#12 by Mr. Cinch on Dec 09, 2004 11:00:00 PM

economics at work
This is a very sad situation and one that bothers me a lot as a musician who lived and played music in Athens during the late 70's punk era...while the Union is important historically, put things in perspective like this: if ownership really believes they can find someone lacking business savvy enough to sign a new lease at (rumored) $3k a month they can't be stopped, but realisticly no small bar can afford to cough up that much rent each month and survive. Think about it...that's a minimum of $100 a day profit, every day, just to pay rent, and doesn't include all the other overhead a bar incurrs. Ultimately the business WILL fail. So someone should step up and present a business plan with reasonable terms that can actually work, or else let the owners crash and burn in their own greed. If the space sits vacant, everybody will be losers. I wish I lived closer to Athens so I could help, but that's not an option for me, so best of luck to those of you in the trenches.

#13 by HMK on Dec 10, 2004 11:00:00 PM

What you do know is wrong, i know what's going on.
The Union is not tripple or even double the origional 1,000 dollars. In fact, the rent is 1,300 for the upstairs and 1,600 for the downstairs. These numbers are according to my conversations with Pete Couldis, documented through email. I have a meeting with him Tuesday, and have organized people to try and "save it," however, i do not feel it is my place seeing as how easy it is to save it.

In order to "Save The Union" without any money requires:

1) If you have no money you need to get a federal tax id and apply for a business lisence.

2) Then you must raise 10-30% in colladeral, either cash, apraised assets, or pretty much anything of value.

3) A loan from a bank, and then you have the means to save the union.

4) Then sign it

I have the first 2 of these, and am considering the 3rd. I'm mearly concerned with keeping it the way it was. I am more than glad to offer any help possible to preserve the union for the same reasons that i cherish it as many of you. I've been going there since i was 14 years old.

In addition, i also think what you guys think you know is conflicting with what i've found as to be true. Instead this has painted an "Us vs. Them" scenerio, which is not counter productive to "Saving the Union," when Pete has been completely upfront and reasonable with sharing information. All i did was ask, it just so happened that to saving the union might be easier than you think.

If you want to help me contact me.

Jeremy Valeda
me@jeremyvaleda.com
740.707.BEER(2337)

I'm the asian kid who's usually there. Think about it.

#14 by Jeremy Valeda on Dec 09, 2004 11:00:00 PM

The UNION IS SAVED
The Union is saved. I got an email from Pete today saying Lous attorney has informed him that Lou intends to sign for both the upstairs and the downstairs. I informed scott today.

THE UNION IS SAVED.

Jeremy Valeda

#15 by Jeremy Valeda on Dec 13, 2004 11:00:00 PM

lou caring


lou first took over the union b/c he cared so much for it and didn't want it to get into the hands of someone who didn't appreciate the history. he worked their in the 80's and was one of the first people booking bands upstairs. when he bought the business, he took it from a struggling bar. It was hard to get good bands, the a/c never worked, and no liquor on the shelf into what you see now.

lou has been stationed with the armyout of town for the last couple of years and unable to be involved with the bar as he once was.

if you don't know the union's books or the business, then you should keep those opinions to yourself. perhaps some changes do need to happen to make up for the ridiculous rent hike, but you obviously don't know the man to say he quit caring. to say lou quit caring is offensive.

#16 by someone else who cares on Dec 13, 2004 11:00:00 PM

DD
FYI - contrary to belief, that "DD" comment isn't from me.

Talked to Lou today. He says negotiations are on and things are "looking good"

-Dan

#17 by Dan D on Dec 13, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Rent Increases
Considering the property value up town, it's no surprise the rent went up. Landlords throughout uptown Athens raise the rent all the time. After a ten year rent cap, it's no surprise to see a large rent increase for the Union.
Burger King moved because their rent went from $6500 to $8500. Ski's Uptown Mini Mall went out of business (even if temporary) due to rent increases. PUblic Access in Athens had a rent increase from $600 to $900 a month this year.
Rent goes up.

Can the Union afford the raised rent? It doesn't really stand much of a choice. Can Athens afford to lose the Union? HELL NO.

Sounds like it is getting straightened out though.
As for bashing the landlords, try and look what the property value there is sometime. Property uptown is expensive.

And, those bashing Lou for "not caring" should get off their ass and join the military. Then we can see how often they get into Athens to run a business first hand.

Stop whining. If everyone drinks just one more beer a night, I think all the "fund" raising needed would be taken care of.

#18 by Jeffery on Dec 17, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Preserve the Union!

Mark Mecum

#19 by mark on Dec 14, 2004 11:00:00 PM

...
finally something i can do to help

#20 by ... on Dec 17, 2004 11:00:00 PM

hey, what up?
Any new developments on this? I'm out of town and the parties involved are lazy emailers. What's going down?

#21 by yo on Jan 05, 2005 11:00:00 PM

The union
I don't think that they should take the union away b/c of all of the bands that play there like skeleton, 4th plague (awsome as hell), and others like high on fire. So i think that it is bull that they are closing their doors. I think that sux.

#22 by >><< on Jan 12, 2005 11:00:00 PM

Save The Union
I lived in Athens from 1972 until 1980 and I continued to work there until 1985. The Union was always the best bar in Athens, combining interesting local folks with interesting college folks. It was my favorite bar, bar none and this was during the time when the famous "SWANKY'S" was in business. Please do all you can to save it.
Anyone remember Tom Kyle?

#23 by Greg Holdren on Jan 19, 2005 11:00:00 PM

OH MY GOD!!!
I love the Union!!!! I can't believe this news!!!! They were awesome to let the band that I was in play there! Many a great memory there.

#24 by Michael on Jan 26, 2005 11:00:00 PM

Please say it is not so.......
Between the history and the lifestyle the union stands for more than just a bar... It is a focal point and melting pot for new and progressive musical ideas... As I sit miles away on a cruise ship working for a band I mixed at the union in 1996... If there is any help I can give please drop a Line...

Rock out...

#25 by James Keaton on Jan 09, 2005 11:00:00 PM

How sad
I played the Union many times in several bands throughout the 1980s and there is no finer dive in all of OH let alone Athens. I remember when Corrosion of Conformity played on that tiny stage...save the Union!

#26 by Carlos on Jan 28, 2005 11:00:00 PM

Crap, that stinks
I don't know how many beers I drank in the Union, but it was a large number.

Athens wouldn't be the same without cozy watering hole.

#27 by Andrew S. on Feb 08, 2005 11:00:00 PM

Sadness
The younger generation (this includes myself) should not have to lose such a wonderful place to hang out and listen to GOOD music. The Union is even historical! Shouldn't that have some small impact of the decisions about shutting it down?!?!

#28 by Fabby on Feb 10, 2005 11:00:00 PM

can't happen
all that is good was happening at the union, rock and roll, compasion, and a blind good time.
dare to it is my fondest memory.
can't happen, bad for mankind.

#29 by maria calandra on Apr 13, 2005 12:00:00 AM

Union
I went to school there and remember seeing The Bogus Brothers, Hammer Damage, (I think!) the Frog Whompers and a bunch of other bands there. Too bad it's gone.


EDITORS NOTE: THE UNION IS NOT DEAD. THEY SURVIVED THE ORDEAL. To recap--The Union still exists!

#30 by e.p. on Jun 20, 2005 12:00:00 AM

Traveled the world over
Been damned near everywhere in this country - The Union in Athens, Ohio is still by far the best bar I've ever been to, and keep ending up at. I think I'll make a collage of all the photos of me wearing my Union baseball cap in all the major landmarks of this country. ;-)

#31 by neil frum california on Sep 12, 2005 12:00:00 AM

Gotta Mobilize
Something's gotta happen to prevent this shite. We've been losing venues in Athens regularly for the past 6 years, and we're currently at 3 decent venues, the music scene won't be able to run comfortably with just 2. Once a plan of action is created, do your best to support it!!!!!!

#32 by FUBAR on Dec 05, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Couladis?
Is it Pete Couladis, chairman of the Athens County Republican party? Maybe he is unhappy with the Slam Bush event and that sort of thing? It would be an interesting factor in this.

#33 by Chris DeVille on Dec 06, 2004 11:00:00 PM

Article
Hey, this is sarah from the a-news ... i might be writing a story about how significant the union has been to athens community and culture ...i'm not sure what approach the article will take, or if i'll for-sure write it, but the deadline is next tuesday, so contact me if you'd like to offer some input ... especially anonymous guy who wrote a paper on it ... thanks a lot, my email is sarahlaubacher@hotmail.com

#34 by Sarah on Dec 10, 2004 11:00:00 PM

But the more you look into it...
When I first heard about all of this, I was outraged just like everyone else. But, honestly, as more and more information comes out, doesn't it just look as though Lou quit caring?

The rent that Couladis is asking isn't astronomical whatsoever. I know one business nearby that is half the size of the Union and the rent on it is $1,100. I think that perhaps the Union just needs to make some changes to save more money.

I don't understand what is with the Couladis bashing either. I have had my fair share of deeming him the enemy, but the more you think about it, none of it is justified. Oh...big bad republican trying to destroy our little town. Bullshit.

I think right now, everyone needs to support The Union as much as possible. Even if Lou is turning his back on the music venue, employees, friends, patrons, and his wife are doing their best to try and save it. I hear rumors of benefit shows this Friday and Saturday (17th and 18th). Keep your fingers crossed.

#35 by DD on Dec 13, 2004 11:00:00 PM

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